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---
title: Jesus FAQ
date: 2011-12-13
techne: :incomplete
episteme: :believed
---
Introduction
============
I'm totally biased.
## Conventions
I'm sticking to a few rules in this overview (and the rest of my writing).
1. Whenever I use a name, I'll stick to the most common English version, but
give original version the first time I mention them. There are a few exceptions.
Some characters vary dramatically depending on the community, so to untangle
them I'll use different names for different versions, either by using an obvious
alias (Chrestos for the Marcionite Jesus) or by using fanfic tags
(catholic!Jesus).
2. Texts are always linked in both original and translated versions. If it's
unclear what the original language was, I'll mention all plausible candidates.
3. I often give probability estimates that reflect my own certainty in a
particular belief, like so: "(muflax: 50%)". I sometimes also give them for other
writers, but then typically without numerical estimates.
4. A "myth" is any kind of story, true or not. "Fiction" is not true, and
obvious as such to the reader. A person is "mythological" if it appears in myths
and "historical" if there is evidence to attest their existence outside of myth.
Someone can be both at the same time: [Adolf Hitler][] is historical, but
[Jetpack Hitler][] is mythological.
Dramatis personae
=================
Who are all these people?
TODO: Stammbaum
The groupings are a bit arbitrary and overlap somewhat, but I think they make
the most sense this way. I've ordered them roughly by importance, but that's not
a value judgment. I totally like Longinus too.
Prophets
--------
### Jesus
- Joshua (a jewish prophet)
- Yeshu (an evil prophet)
- the Son of God
- Christus (the messiah)
- Chrestos (the Marcionite version)
- Isa (the ascetic)
I'll use "Jesus" as a collective name for all these persons and otherwise use
the relevant specific version. This might be a bit confusing at first, but I do
this to separate the traditions and make it easier to see just how messed up the
modern myth is.
### John the Baptist
aka John the Baptizer
### James the Just
Apostles
--------
### Paul
- Paulus, St. Paul
- Saul of Tarsus, Saulus
- Simon Magus
-
### Peter
aka Simon Peter, St. Peter, Petrus
I'll typically just
### Judas Iscariot
aka Judas the False One
Church Fathers
--------------
(And "fathers?" No women? Well, honestly, not really. There is exactly one and
she is mythological.)
### Marcion
### Augustine of Hippo
Historians
----------
### Josephus
Others
------
### Herod
# Historicity
*But maybe there's a historical Jesus all the mythological accounts are based on?*
I don't think so. (muflax: 70%) You may be able to reconstruct some plausible
minimalistic accounts, or reduce him to some other figure like Siddhattha
Gotama, but I think both of these approaches miss the point. Back in the old
Soviet Union, people told this Radio Yerevan joke:
> The Armenian Radio was asked: Is it true that Ivan Ivanovich from Moscow won a
> car in the lottery?
>
> The Armenian Radio answered: In principle yes, but it wasn't Ivan Ivanovich
> but Aleksander Aleksandrovich, he isn't from Moscow but from Odessa, it was
> not a car but a bicycle, and he didn't win it, but it was stolen from him.
> Everything else is correct.
At some point you just have to let go and say "he isn't real".
[Adolf Hitler]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
[Jetpack Hitler]: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidJetpackHitler

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title: The Broken Savior
title: Theology in a Godless World
date: 2011-10-17
techne: :incomplete
episteme: :believed
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# Topics
- [Tracing the Gospels][]
- [Tracing Paul][]
- [On the Crucifixion][]
- [Living in Hell][]
- [Divine Command Theory for Atheists][]
- [An Empty God][]
- [Killing Jesus][]
- [Jesus FAQ][]
- [Against Asceticism][]
- [Serving An Absent God][] aka Divine Command Theory for Atheists
- [Devil's Guide to Theology][]
# Short FAQ
### Is this apologetics?
No. This isn't really about Christianity, just Christ and salvation. I'm not
interested in politics.
No. This isn't really about Christianity, just the Christ. It's not
about Buddhism, just the end of suffering. There is no savior, just salvation.
In other words, I'm not defending a political or religious institution. I'm
just thinking about topics that cluster more-or-less around religion. Some of it
is philosophy, some history, some morality and some fiction.
### Are you a Christian?
No. I occassionally identify as a Buddhist, but really, I'm just a normal
non-believing atheist internet crackpot.
No. I occassionally call myself a Buddhist or Christian atheist, but really, I'm
just a normal non-believing internet crackpot.
### Then why do you care so much about Christ?
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### Do you think Christ was historical?
No. The best you can do is reconstruct some plausible minimalistic accounts, but
they always remind me of the old Radio Yerevan joke:
> The Armenian Radio was asked: Is it true that Ivan Ivanovich from Moscow won a
> car in a lottery?
>
> The Armenian Radio answered: In principle yes, but it wasn't Ivan Ivanovich
> but Aleksander Aleksandrovich, he is not from Moscow but from Odessa, it was
> not a car but a bicycle, and he didn't win it, but it was stolen from him.
> Everything else is correct.
I think that any attempt to historize Christ misses the point. He must be
understood on theological grounds. You must wrestle with mercy and damnation,
not birth dates and miracles.