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@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ Belief updates, all related to antinatalism (everything else is still in the "tr
4. Some people have shitty lives. (I dispute that, to some degree, but let's grant it.) So what? If you are a consequentialist, that doesn't matter. (Net benefits do.) If not, then how do they have shitty lives? As in, all other not-entirely-insane moral systems don't consider the mere existence of suffering a massive evil to be overcome. (I am, however, in favor of eugenics and drug liberation, which would fix most of these shitty lives, and is far more feasible then "everyone stop having children nao!". Or just transhumanism, if you must have an eschatology.)
5. Sensate experience alone do not constitute suffering. This means "new persons will experience pain, grief, etc." arguments are simply irrelevant. They have no moral weight. (I accept that I am one of the few (crypto-)theologians who rejects the Evidential Problem of Evil with "What evil?", and that this is a unintuitive and weird position that I should properly argue for, but haven't.)
5. Sensate experience alone do not constitute suffering. This means "new persons will experience pain, grief, etc." arguments are simply irrelevant. They have no moral weight. (I accept that I am one of the few (crypto-)theologians who reject the Evidential Problem of Evil with "What evil?", and that this is an unintuitive and weird position that I should properly argue for, but haven't.)
6. Rejecting the world is a sin. (Ditto, requires much more explanation, and isn't necessarily a theological concept, but maybe consider the decision theoretic implication of refusing to play the game?) (This only affects pessimism, not antinatalism per se.)